Tuesday, 27 April 2010

Some more memories of old Ladywood



Uncle Bill in the army 1948 2nd from left

Several years ago I collected a few memories from my dad's older brother Bill Millington and his sisters, Kath and Nance. Sadly all three of them have died in the past decade.

I have already posted up quite a lot of Kath's memories in particular, whose wonderful anecdotes were probably the reason I was inspired to start researching the family tree in the first place. However, I may not have posted up many of the short stories and things that Bill and Nance told me.

Because I need to hunt around a bit for scraps of paper, I'm therefore going to develop this post over the next week or so, so it may not initially seem very complete, but bear with me.

Uncle Bill was born in 1928. His family, the Millingtons, lived in close proximity to their maternal grandparents, the Claytons. Bill confirmed the fact that the Clayton family were a big extended family who lived in a close knit community around Garbett Street in Ladywood. His Aunty May (Emily) lived opposite his own family in Garbett Street. May was married to George Clayton who was my grandmother Florence's brother. George and Emily were the parents of Bernard, Sheila, Dennis, Emily, William and George Clayton.

Bill told me that Aunty Emily's mother also lived on Garbett Street with another of her daughters. The mother was of Jewish origin and was known to be a money lender. The Clayton siblings (named above) told me that their mother's family originated from the West Ham area of London, within view of Upton Park Football Ground.

Like my own father Geoff, Bill recalled Aunty Pem, the sister of great granddad Clayton, who used to come to the house and entertain people by reading tea leaves, something at which she was reputed to be very accurate.

A nice story that Bill told me was about the occassion he developed a bad case of appendicitis and the local doctor said that he needed to be rushed straight to hospital. This was in the days before an ambulance service or the trusty family saloon, so word went quickly around the neighbourhood that there was an emergency which required transport to the Children's Hospital. Almost immediately a gentleman named Mr Mosedale offered to take Bill to hospital on the back of his horse and cart. Even though the Children's Hospital was only a mile up the road from Garbett Street, the journey on the back of a cart along the cobbled and uneven streets of old Ladywood had the rather unexpected affect of healing Bill's appendicitis. By the time Mr Mosedale's horse arrived at the hospital, the child was completely cured and never experienced a murmur from his appendix ever again.

Bill's appendicitis wasn't his only medical trauma as he once dropped a pot of boiling water onto his own foot. A well meaning relative smeared tea leaves over Bill's burnt foot believing it was a remedy for scalds but it only made things worse and once again Bill was hauled off to the local hospital, though apparantly not on the back of Mr Moseley's horse and cart this time.

Bill also recalled a lady named Mrs Cook who ran the local 'outdoor'. She wore black clothes to the floor in the manner of the Victorians. The outdoor was privately owend as Mrs Cook had bought it from M&B. Bill said:

"I would fetch a pint of fives in a bottle for our granddad. A pint of fives was half ale and half beer - the price was divided ale 4d and beer 2d. Mrs Cook would put a sticky label over the cork of the bottle denoting that it was being handed over to an under age person - to stop us kids having a swig! Granddad always washed and shone his empty bottles until they were like cut glass.

"Mrs Cook wanted our Nance to work for her but she wasn't keen. The Cooks had a young couple lodging with them and the husband of this couple had an eye for Nance so she decided not to go and work for Mrs Cook".

Bill recalled the war years in Ladywood and one particular night when a bomb came down opposite their house on Monument Road:

"Geoff was about 5 and when we heard the air raid siren I took him down into our cellar. We heard a bomb come whistling down and it hit a house opposite where we lived at number 2 Monument Road. Two or three nurses lodging in the house were killed. Ma and dad came home from the pub and me and Geoff were still in the cellar. It was a very frightening sound hearing a bomb falling almost right above you, it was like a train coming towards you. Rubbish and rubble flew into our garden".



Bill told me about the old photograph above which shows two of my grandmother's brothers in amongst a group of men outside The Vine public house in Ladywood. 

"One of the other men in the photograph is Harry Bowden who was well known for singing a turn in the pub. He would often go to the Clayton house after the pub had closed and sing a few songs inlcuding his favourite turn "I'm the black sheep of the family". The landlord of The Vine was Jack Farrell.

"There was always something free to eat on the counter in most pubs, usually cheese and pickles. In Harry's pub, the Vesper Bell you would get bread and cheese on the counter. You could go into a pub and get a packet of 5 Woodbine and 2 matches, a pint of beer and still have half a penny change out of 6d". 

"The was a blacksmith around the corner to The Vine, he used to shoe all the big horses. There weren't many motor vehicles around then so everything was carried by horse and cart - bread, milk and coal. I remember down Garbett Street there was Frank Moss the grocer and pawnshop, which was always busiest on Monday morning as people were strapped for money after the weekend. Men worked bloody hard in those days but didn't get a lot.

"Mr Roberts ran the local sweet shop, he was badly wounded in the battle of Jutland and he bought the shop from his pension."

"I went into the Marines on The Syrius which was one of Portsmouth's ships, a cruiser. The ship was a three badger because it had seen action in a bad campaign in Crete. I was put in charge of the barrack room" 

Apparently everytime Bill wrote home from the army he started every letter "Dear All, I'm broke..."

Bill married Iris Butcher of Guildford Street, Lozells on 21st August 1955 at St John's church in Ladywood. He worked for many years at the Longbridge car factory which started as the Austin and finished as MG Rover.


Wednesday, 21 April 2010

More photos from the Robinson photo album



Harry and Fred Lee
(brothers of Harry's mom Emily Lee?)


A young Harry Robinson


Uncle Harry Robinson (my uncle's uncle)
1914 -1918 War service then service in India for several years
In the Royal Flying Corps.


Harry Robinson's father Edwin and his sister Lil


Harry Robinson with his sister Pem, brother Ted and a cousin
I don't know which boys are which though suspect Harry is the smaller boy on the left and his brother Ted is the lad on the right because of facial resemblance



Harry's mom and dad
Emily Lee and Edwin Robinson


Monday, 19 April 2010

More recollections of Ledsam Street from Trevor Mabbett

Click on the image to see a detailed close-up of this view along Ledsam Street

This is the second of the photos given to me by Uncle Harry - although this scan is from a print not the original so there may be slight loss of quality, though it's still a good image. Note the horse and cart on the opposite side of the street to the Vesper Bell and Friston Street is further back. The photo was taken by a photographer from the Birmingham Post and Mail probably just before or after Winston Churchill drove by. 

Dear Peter,


Many thanks for your letter and for the much better quality copies of the photographs which you sent. I recognise at least four people who were neighbours when we lived in Ledsam Street. I have a magnifying glass but intend to get a more powerful one and then perhaps more folk will become recognisable.


I can't believe that your parents still have the clock and the dartboard from the pub, what a lovely piece of history that is. I certainly would have looked at that clock many years ago and although I'm not a player, some members of my family will have certainly thrown a few arrows at the dartboard.


Now then, I can shed some light on the reasons for Winston Churchill's drive down Ledsam Street on that day. To do so I must go back in time for a little while. In the years between the wars, Ladywood was a Conservative stronghold and Neville Chamberlain (1869-1940) was the MP there from 1918 until 1929 when he transferred to the Edgbaston ward. You probably already know that he became Prime Minister in 1937 and that it was actually he who announced the declaration of war on Germany on 3 September 1939. He later handed the reins of power to Churchill, who saw us through almost all of the rest of the war years.


When Chamberlain moved from the Ladywood constituency, his place was taken by Geoffrey Lloyd, who was then elected MP for Ladywood. He became a Minister in Churchill's wartime Government and a very high profile one he was. If my memory serves me correctly, he was Minister for Fuel and Power. (I also believe he had responsibility for two of this country's secret weapons - called P.L.U.T.O. and F.I.D.O. - but that's another story).


At the General Election of 1945, just before the war ended, the Conservatives lost and Geoffrey Lloyd also lost his seat to the Labour candidate (Victor Yates, who was the cousin of my wife's maternal uncle by the way!)


After his defeat, Geoffrey Lloyd took the seat at Edgbaston vacated by Chamberlain. Because of the high profile MPs that Ladywood had elected, there was a very successful and thriving Ladywood Constituency Conservative Party. Their headquarters were situated at premises in the centre of Friston Street, which was the next street along Ledsam Street from Blythe Street. On your picture of the Vesper Bell, Friston Street can be clearly seen with the dog food advert over the corner shop (almost opposite the horse and cart).


Well, after all that, I can tell you that on his visit that day, Winston Churchill was paying a call to the Ladywood Conservative HQ in Friston Street. I can state all of this as fact because the aforementioned HQ had a thriving and active branch of the Young Conservatives, of which my elder brother was a member. One had to be 15 years of age to join, but at only 13 I was allowed to go there because of my brother. I joined them when I became 15 and worked for them for many years, covering many local and general elections. Canvassing, speaking on the loud speaker cars, delivering the leaflets and polling cards.


However, despite all of our best efforts, Ladywood became and still remains a Labour stronghold. I would imagine it's because of the many businesses in the area which were demolished.


This is how Churchill came to drive down Ledsam Street.


All the best and thanks for the pictures.




Trevor Mabbett


Uncle Harry's grandfather Albert Lee (landlord of the Vesper Bell) with Harry's mother Emily Robinson (nee. Lee)

Thanks to my dad Geoff Millington for these comments about the most recent posts on the site:

Hi Pete,

I was fascinated to read the latest information on the Finn's history blog, as you say, all you need now is feedback from our cousins in Cleveland Ohio, to complete the picture.

Equally interesting was the information provided by Trevor Mabbett on Ledsam Street and the Vesper Bell; his family appear to have been a regular customers at the pub. Trevor recalls Harry's adopted sister Gertrude and her husband Norman Dodd. I believe you met the couple on the occasion of Kath and Hals 50th wedding anniversary celebration, held at St Mary's clubroom. He was a tall stocky chap and wore glasses. In fact I remember him getting up on the stage and giving us a rousing number; he had a very good tenor voice.


I wonder if Trevor Mabbett was ever a fisherman? I remember going on a few fishing trips with Kath and Hal, organised from the Vesper Bell. Those were grand days out, mostly to the river Severn, at Worcester. I do remember a larger-than-life character, with a red waxed mustache, who was always present on the coach. His name was Billy Cole.


When Churchill visited Birmingham in 1945, I stood in King Edwards Road, with the assembled crowd, waiting to see the national hero who had guided us through the war. As his car passed, he stood erect in the back of the vehicle giving the customary V sign. He had a faraway look in his eye, and his face was very flushed. I believe Winnie was very fond of a lunchtime tipple, and why not?


Strange that Trevor should mention the Conservative MP Geoffrey Lloyd. During the 1930s he came around the houses in Ladywood, canvassing, chatting with the housewives and kissing the babies. My dear mom Florence was so impressed with his civility that guess what?


I was christened Geoffrey. Not a lot of people know that story.


Keep the blogs coming you're doing a grand job, all my love to the family.
 
Dad

A journey down Ledsam Street

Click on the image for a close-up detailed view

This fantastic plan of the shops along old Ledsam Street in Ladywood in the 1940s was plotted from memory by Trevor Mabbett (see posts above and below). My uncle's family pub, the Vesper Bell, can be seen on the left hand bottom corner of the page, standing on the corner of Blythe Street and Ledsam Street.

Sunday, 18 April 2010

Memories of Ladywood and the Vesper Bell Public House


A photo of Ledsam Street taken by the Birmingham Post and Mail as Winston Churchill drives past the Vesper Bell. The photo was given to me by Uncle Harry Robinson. Trevor has spotted himself in the crowd as a 12 year old lad standing outside his father's shop.

If you click on the image to enlarge it, you might just make out the word Vesper about half way up the street on the left hand side. Uncle Harry once pointed out to me that his own father, Ted or Edwin, can be seen on the opposite side of the street to the pub standing close to the front door of their house (look on right hand side of street close to where the third car is approaching to see a lone figure standing back from the crowd).   

Thank you to Trevor Mabbett who sent me these memories of Ladywood and of my Uncle Harry's family pub, the Vesper Bell (see post below for more details).

My father George Gerald Mabbett was born 1887 at 17 Blythe Street, which was seven doors from the Vesper Bell, the pub situated on the corner of Blythe Street and Ledsam Street. My mother, Elsie Elizabeth Mabbett (nee. White) was born in Cregoe Street, Edgbaston in 1898 and eventually worked at Kunzle's, the chocolate and cake makers at Five Ways. Her best friend there was Gertie Mabbett, my father's sister and Mom used to visit her at 17 Blythe Street. There she met my father who was home from the war and they were married on 6 September 1919 at St Margarets Church in Ledsam Street. They had a joint wedding ceremony as dad's sister Gertie married James Ray at the same service. Sadly, like most of the old Ladywood, St Margarets is no more.

After their marriage, my parents eventually rented a shop and house at 23 Ledsam Street and my mother opened a Dry Cleaning and Laundry Agency. Three sons were born there, Kenneth George in 1923, Stanley Harold in 1929 and Trevor John in 1933. Except for his regular service in the Royal Artillery, my father spent the first 70 years of his life at the above two addresses, which were seven and five doors from the Vesper Bell, respectively. He always referred to the pub as the Wrexham, as in it's early days I believe it was owned by The Wrexham Brewery. The Vesper Bell was in the care of the Lee and Robinson families during all of my life in Ladywood and all of my family knew all of their family and they all called my brothers and I by our Christian names.

My own recollections of Mr and Mrs Lee were of a Victorian couple; she dressed always in black except for a spotless white pinnafore and he with a pure white goatee beard and a spotless white apron. They were assisted in the running of the pub by their daughter Emily and her husband Ted (Edwin Robinson). Later on, the Robinson's daughter, also Emily, but known to us as Pem or Pemmie, joined them in the serving. I lived with my parents in Ledsam Street until our shop was demolished in 1958. Until Blythe Street was demolished, a lot of the Mabbett family lived there. My father's brothers and sisters lived at number 17, my brother and his family lived at number 24, another of dad's brothers lived with his family at number 46, another brother and family at 50 something and a sister with her family at rear of 75.

There were many public houses in Ladywood and at week-ends there was often trouble outside one or more of them, sometimes needing the police to calm things down. In all of the time I lived in Ladywood however, some 25 years, I cannot recall ever seeing any kind of trouble, either inside or outside The Vesper Bell. It was a comfortable little pub, quiet, well run and well kept.

One of the things I can remember about the pub was how regularly it seemed to be painted. The workmen used to arrive and would start by stripping off all of the old paint, using blowlamps and scrapers. Then came the sanding down, then all of the woodwork would be painted with pink primer. When all of that was dry, all would then be painted yellow. Again there was the wait for the drying and then all of the yellow was covered with a thick brown varnish. While this was still wet, the painter would use a stippling comb to make patterns all over the woodwork. Finally, a coat of clear varnish was applied to complete the job and very smart it looked too, unlike the bizarre colours of some pubs these days.

Another memory I have, perhaps a strange thing to recall, but this I saw only at the Vesper Bell. The gent's toilet was just inside the pub door, so as youngsters we had access to it if needed. It was covered in white tiles, with just one row of black ones near to the ceiling . This was in the days when cards were put into cigarette packets. Well someone started putting one of the sets on the black tiles, in order 1 to 50 and they were kept in sequence, so that any missing cards could be affixed once they appeared in the packets.

Another memory is a picture in a frame in the bar. Customers would dip their penny or halfpenny coins, from their change, in beer and stick them on the glass in the picture frame. When it was full the coins would be removed and used for either some charity or the local street party.

At the end of the war when my brother, an Army Sergeant, was demobbed, he became friends with Norman Dodd who lived at the Robinson family home with his wife Gertie. I think she may have been adopted but I am not certain. Norman too had just been demobbed from the RAF where he had been a Warrant Officer. I know that Norman died some time ago, as I saw his death notice in the Evening Mail, which Gertie had inserted.

Like the Lee and Robinson families, having a shop meant that we were better off than a lot of the Ladywood families, to whom, for many, dire poverty was a way of life. We still had only the outside toilet though and the tin bath hanging on the yard wall, ready to be fetched inside and filled on bath night. Oh the luxury in later years when we were old enough to go to Monument Road Baths and wallow in a bath tub full of hot water.

I can clearly recall the war years; for a few months I was evacuated to Shrewsbury, but couldn't settle and soon returned home. We had some horrific raids on the area but although school was disrupted, we did manage to have at least some lessons each day, albeit in small classes in peoples houses. There were direct hits on Ledsam Street, Friston Street, Broad Street, Bishopsgate Street and Sherbourne Street. We would be with our playmates one day, then never see them again.

There was a dreadful fire in Ledsam Street during the Blitz, at the premises of the Queen's Gravy Salt Co.; when we came up from the Air Road Shelter, after the 'all clear' siren had sounded, we were met by one of the most spectacular fires I had ever seen (or seen since then). The factory produced all manner of sugar products and large quantities were on the premises. The factory was totally ablaze from end to end and top to bottom. Melted sugar was running in the gutters ablaze and it was a frightening thing to see. Another night Docker Brothers Paint Factory, up Icknield Port Road was on fire. When we came out of the shelter, the air was thick with smoke and large pieces of burned material were floating in the street; and this was in Ledsam Street about a mile from the fire.

On yet another occasion, the sirens sounded and we came out of our house, Mom, Dad, Stan and I, to go in to the shelter under the Fish and Chip Shop next door. As we came out of our shop there was a brilliant flash and a passing policeman dropped to the floor, shouting at us to do the same. As we did so the worst explosion ever, rent the air. All of the buildings and all of the ground shook and swayed. We were all terrified and learned next day that the Hanger Motor Co. in Broad Street had received a direct hit.


Uncle Harry's dad, Ted Robinson, back row third from left
1939 Fire Service in Ladywood

I must not give the impression that Ladywood was all doom and gloom. We had a lot of laughs, a lot of family parties and street parties galore. Everyone helped everyone else and friendships lasted a lifetime. I have already mentioned how the Mabbett family lived all around us, well the Bolton and Baker families were the same. Mrs May Bolton who lived next door to us at number 21 Ledsam Street, had a drapers shop; she was known to everyone as Auntie May. She was the twin sister of Mrs Amy Baker who owner the clothing factory at number 30.

Mrs Alice Lloyd at the grocery shop, number 5, was another sister and the mother of Lloyds who had the Ladies Hairdresser's at number 29. After Bromages shold their Fish and Chip shop at numbers 25-27, it was bought by Harveys who were also related to Boltons & Bakers. Cotterill the Bookie, who was mentioned in the article about the Vesper Bell (Old Brum Magazine April 10, 2000) had a daughter Nellie who married Gordon Bolton, the son of 'Aunty May'.

So one can see what a tight knit little community our small area was. Those who were not related were usually friends. We had some great parties, especially towards and at the end of the war, when the lads were returing from fighting. Sadly, it's all gone now, but there are still so many memories. One thing is for sure, as long as there's still some of the old Ladywood folks left, then there will be stories galore still to be told.

Peter, I hope that this has given you an insight into the "Old Area" as I knew it and can substantiate the stories told to you by your Dear Uncle and Aunt. I'm only sorry I didn't contact you early enough to have been able to have reminisced with them.

Very best wishes,


Trevor Mabbett

The Vesper Bell


A number of years ago I had a letter published in Carl Chinn's Old Brum Magazine about a pub in Ledsam Street in Ladywood called the Vesper Bell. The pub was where my uncle, Harry Robinson, was born in 1920 and his family ran the pub from 1901 to the early 1960s when it was demolished as part of the housing clearance in Ladywood.

I have in my possession somewhere two photos of Ledsam Street which Harry gave me before his death. Both were taken of the street scene by the Birmingham Post, one shows the empty street decorated with Union Jack bunting and the other shows a cavalcade of black cars driving past the Vesper Bell which Uncle Harry told me were carrying the wartime Prime Minister Winston Churchill. When I eventually find the photos again (they are quite large so I've obviously put them flat in a box somewhere!) I will add them to this website post.

The letter and photos were published in Old Brum and a month or so later I was contacted by a gentleman named Trevor Mabbett from Great Barr who had grown up on Ledsam Street and recalled the Robinson family, the Vesper Bell and the occasion on which Winston Churchill drove along their inner city street.

Here is my original letter published in Old Brum Magazine:

Dear Carl,

Do any of your readers remember a public house called the Vesper Bell, which stood for many years on the corner of Ledsam Street and Blythe Street in Ladywood? Whilst Ledsam Street still exists today, sadly Blythe Street is gone and the Vesper Bell was demolished a long time ago.

The Vesper Bell was where my uncle, Harry Robinson, was born in 1920. His grandfather, Albert Lee, was licensee of the pub from 1901 until his death in 1961 at the age of 81, after which Harry's father, Edwin Robinson took over the license and ran it right up to the day it closed.

The Vesper Bell was so named because it was situated wthin hearing distance of the vesper bells of the Oratory church on Hagley Road. It was a fine old Victorian pub with 2 smoke rooms, 2 bars and an outdoor. Harry recalls it being a Peter Walker pub selling Burton Ales, before being taken over by Atkinsons and finally by M&B.

Throughout the long period that Albert Lee and later his son-in-law were in charge of the Vesper Bell, it wasn't just the license that sayed in the family. In fact, Harry believes that nobody outside of family was ever employed behind the bar. Like many pubs of the old days, the Vesper Bell had sawdust on the floor of the bar and spitoons under the tables - even so, when she wasn't enjoying a game of darts, Harry's grandmother Emily Lee, along with cousin Nell, worked hard to keep a well polished and clean establishment. Respectability was the name of the game for Victorian ladies like Emily Lee.

During the 1940s Harry courted my dad's big sister Kath, who came from Monument Road. The couple are both in their seventies now but still have many happy memories of the good old days in Ladywood. During the war Ladywood was often a target for German bombers, aiming for the Bullpits factory which was being used to make munitions. The big cellar under the Vesper Bell made an ideal air raid shelter for the whole family, along with pub customers and the giant cockroaches and beetles who normally lived down there.

My aunt remembers copping it from her mom and dad one morning, having spent a whole night in the cellar of the Vesper Bell. To this day she is still trying to convince us that she spent the night cuddled up beside Harry's grandmother, not to poor uncle H! Incidentally, the couple married at St Peter's RC Church in June 1942.

Harry remembers Ledsam Street as being a busy shopping area with plenty of local character. Bakers owned a factory that made clothes, Harveys ran the fish and chip shop, Rowley was the butcher, Boltons the drapery, Cotterill the bookie and Dainty the greengrocer. The local picture house, or "bug house" as the oldies call it, was the Ledsam, which later became the New Regent.

We'd love to hear any other stories about Ledsam Street, particularly the Vesper Bell, or any of the old streets around Ladywood. Harry has a couple of photgraphs of Ledsam Steeet taken by the Birmingham Post and Mail circa. 1945 and you can just make out the Vesper Bell through the copious bunting - the cavalcade of official cars contains some bloke called Winston Churchill ...anyone remember him?

Yours sincerely


Peter Millington


A faded photo showing Albert Lee (on right) outside the Vesper Bell

The very poignant post script to this letter is that it was published in the same week that Uncle Harry went into the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. I took a copy of the magazine into the hospital and showed it to him. Reading it he looked whistfully across the ward and sighed "they've all gone now". Just 2 or 3 days later Harry died and a week after that his wife Kath died in the same hospital.


Harry Robinson (left) with his older sister Emily and brother Edward

Dear Peter,

As promised, I enclose a few of my memories of old Ladywood and in particular, the Vesper Bell Public House. I hope it will be of some help to you in putting together some of the gaps in your knowledge of your late Uncle and aunt's old area.

The folk who patronised the Vesper Bell were a great crowd. In fact, other than the Old Crown in Broad Street, I cannot recall my family going in any other pub in the area. There are two coincidences which I want to tell you about now. Firstly, you will see in my typed notes that my father's family home was at 17 Blythe Street. Well, when the demolition of that street commenced, my relatives moved to a new house at Bartley Green. However, the house which they vacated was still habitable and the council were still not ready to demolish. They re-let it and the family who moved in had an irish father. By coincidence I worked with at the G.P.O. then in Victoria Square. He was known to everyone as 'Paddy' but I always called him Pat. His surname was Millington. A relative? I wonder!

Secondly, there is the coincidence of the Robinson family home at 28 Ledsam Street. My mothers sister was named Winnie White and she married Leslie Gould. When they set up home, they got a house on the opposite side of Ledsam Street to where my mom and dad lived. Although I am not 100% certain, I am pretty sure it was number 28 and they left there to live in Yardley Wood. So there are quite a few cross-overs in family history.

In the Mail last week, there was astory about a new Ladywood newspaper which has been produced and which invited anyone interested to ring. My wife did so on my behalf and they have pormised on in the post. At the same time, the lady on the phone said that Norman Bartlam was the man who was dealing with it and asked if he could ring us sometime to ask if I knew any history of Ladywood. My wife is a Great Barr person and has never lived in Ladywood. I agreed he could phone me and when he does I may let him have some of the notes I'm sending you, as he writes books on Ladywood.

Thank you for sending me your Aunty and Uncle's Memorial which you did for their funeral, it was a lovely trbute and very touching.

Very best wishes to you and yours.

Yours sincerely

Trevor Mabbett

Saturday, 17 April 2010

Marriage certificate of Annie Finn and Thomas McKiernan


Jamie Evans has sent a copy of the marriage certificate of Thomas McKiernan and Annie Finn which took place at St Chads RC Cathedral in Birmingham on 3rd April 1893.

Annie Finn was the daughter of Patrick and Catherine Finn. Patrick was the brother of my great great great grandfather Martin. Annie was born in Birmingham in 1868. Thomas and Annie McKiernan went to live in Cleveland, Ohio along with 3 of her sisters and their partners.

One of their children was the lady who became the nun in Cleveland.

The marriage certificate reads:

3rd April 1892, Thomas McKiernan aged 25 marries Annie Finn, aged 24.
Both single, address given for both is 5 Court, Lancaster Street.
Thomas McKiernan's occupation (looks like) wire worker.
Annie's father is Patrick Finn a labourer and Thomas's father is Thomas McKiernan, a painter.

Jamie also provides some addittional information about Mary and Fred Payne:

"I had a look at the Voters list for 18, Park Road Moseley for 1932, it showed that Fred and Jayne Payne and their daughter and her husband, Hughes were all living there together at that time.


Also in the 1920 Voters List, James and Emily Ratchford at 7 Pritchett Street, Aston, were simply registered as BATCHFORD and they gave at least a son in the First War."

Millington photos

Thanks to my sister Fiona for posting some old family photos on Facebook. Here are three, the first one below shows from left to right: my older sister Susan, older brother Denis (holding baby Fiona), me standing behind Alison and Kathryn on the right. The occasion was Fiona's baptism at St Catherine's RC Church on Bristol Street circa. 1971).



My lickle sisters Fiona and Alison, photo taken on holiday, looks like Llangennith beach on the Gower Coast, a venue we went camping to for several years in the 1970s. Slightly remote but well worth the journey for it's natural beauty. My mom and dad didn't do theme parks and popular resorts, if you could still see other human beings on the beach - you hadn't walked far enough! 


Little sister Fi with my mom Joan Millington. nee. Lawlor.

Monuments in St Joseph's Churchyard

Thanks to Jamie Evans for sending these photographs taken earlier this week at St Joseph's RC churchyard in Nechells. St Joseph's was the first Roman Catholic cemetary in Birmingham following the Catholic Relief (or Emancipation) Act of 1829. From 1826 Catholics had been interred at St Peter's on Broad Street (Birmingham's first RC church following emancipation), though this was not officially a cemetary and had become over crowded so in 1850 the new cemetary was consecrated at St Joseph's. It is commonly suggested that St Josephs contains many graves of the wave of migrants who settled in Birmingham in the decades following the Great Hunger or potato blight of Ireland in the late 1840s.

In a previous post on this site Jamie related a conversation he had with a priest and archivist at St Josephs in which he was informed that many of the graves in the church yard were destroyed by bombing in the war with some burial records also being lost. So we can assume that there were many more people buried at St Josephs than we know to be here. 

Jamie's photographs show the monuments at the graves of Mary Payne (nee Finn) and her family, which include the stone of her relation John Finn. 




The beautiful cherubic monument above was initially the gravestone of Jane Payne, who was the daughter of Mary Jane Payne and Federick Payne. Mary Jane Payne, nee. Finn was the first cousin of my great grandmother Mary Clayton, nee. Finn. The inscription tells us that Jane Payne died in 1922 at the age of 15.

My grandmother Florence Millington, nee. Clayton, was born in 1899. Florence Clayton and Jane Payne would therefore have been second cousins. The size and striking charm of the monument make it stand out in amongst the more humble stones which surround it and perhaps indicate both the great sadness of the family's loss of 15 year old Jane and also that Mary and Fred were able to afford a more sophisticated and unique monument.  



On another side of the monument the inscription tells us that this grave also became the resting place of Mary and Frederick Payne themselves. Mary died on the 19th April 1936 aged 64and Frederick died on 24th April 1939 aged 67.


A few stones away from Mary and Fred is the grave of John Finn (above). John Finn was the cousin of Mary's father James Finn (John's father Patrick Finn was brother to James' father Martin Finn. James was brother of  my g-g-grandfather Thomas Finn).

John Finn is the man who married Catherine Finn and lived close to Jamie's grandparents in the late 1800s and early 1900s. We believe that the connection is through Jamie's great grandmother whose maiden name was Hogan. John Finn died on 31st October 1924 aged 67, which matches the birthyear we have for John which was 1857.

Also buried in this grave were John Allen Burke who died aged 77 in 1936. We do not at the moment who this gentleman was, although his age was very similar to John Finn's, so can we guess that he is a relation that we don't yet known about such as a cousin to John Finn?

Another person at rest in this grave is John Alfred Hughes who was the husband of Elizabeth nee. Payne - another daughter of Fred and Mary Jane Payne. John Hughes died in 1948 aged 48.

Whilst at St Jospeh's, Jamie took a photograph of the memorial stone of the Wier children. These are not relatives but the story of their death is well known to local historians as they burnt to death in 1932. Jamie said "the story is fully covered on the Birmingham History Forum, a very sad story, all because the kids had to use candles to light the way upstairs to bed!"


Jamie also took a photo of the stone of a Belgian soldier in the cemetery: "the headstone is well looked after, I wonder if relatives or the Belgium government do it? It is without doubt still very smart for something nearly 100 years old".


Tuesday, 6 April 2010

Updates on the Finn research

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A family evicted from their land during the Irish Famine of the late 1840s

Did the Finns, Flynns, Hogans, McKiernans, Duffys and Ratchfords arrive in Birmingham from such scenes?  

Thank you to my fellow genealogical detectives, Ian Payne and Jamie Evans for these further contributions towards our research into the extended Finn and Flynn family of 19th century to mid 20th century Newtown and Ladywood.

Firstly, Ian reminds us that his father recalls that Mary Jane Payne (Ian's g-grandmother and the first cousin of my g-grandmother - both named Mary Finn when born) visited a relation in Cleveland who was a doctor. I don't think we have come across this person yet, although it might come up in the death records of Ohio relatives which Jamie Evans is researching.

Ian also tells us:

"I have a few records of baptisms from Saint Chads of the Mckiernan family and the Ratchford family, I think Mary Jane was very close to this part of the family. Mary Jane also had other sisters, Eliza born on 30/11/1873 (who sadly died a month later), Elizabeth born 21/10/1874 and Ellen (Helena) Finn born 05/03/1876.

"All of these sisters were baptised at St Chads, Eliza on 04/12/1873, Elizabeth on 01/11/1875 and Ellen on  07/08/1876. All were born at 9 court Weaman Street surprisingly, it seemed to be a real family house.

"Their father James Finn died on 23/03/1916 at his home address of 131 Francis Street, Nechells.

"All I have on John Finn is that he was married to a woman named Catherine, but I have not found any record to back this up as such, I only have the census information on him. It seems strange that his wife wasn't mentioned on the burial records either. Perhaps she died young?"

"I have reason to believe that Martin Finn also went to America, I found a record of a Martin Finn born in Galway in 1820, living in Ohio, after passing through Ellis Island, New York. Though if this was him he may have remarried".

Jamie Evans also emailed today with some background information into the origins of his grandparents, John and Martha Walton. Visitors to this blog will recall that Martha and John lived near John and Catherine Finn for many years, even moving with them. Following John Walton's death in 1918, his widow Martha visited relatives in Cleveland and even attempted to take her daughters there with her in 1922 but was prevented by her mother-in-law.

There was clearly a blood connection between the Waltons and the Finns, but after extensive research, Jamie is still attempting to make the link. He believes the connection is through his grandfather John Walton whose mother's maiden name was Hogan. Mary Hogan (the lady who took her grand daughters off the New York bound liner in 1922) lived for many years in Weaman Street and came from Galway. We may therefore be looking for a marriage link to the Finns, or indeed the Flynns, going back another generation or two.

Jamie fills us in here with some background: 

"I have my great grandmother Mary Hogan on a marraige certificate dated 31/7/1882, at St Chad's, she gives her age as 22 so born 1860, I also have her birth certificate and her death certificate, she died in 1946 at the St Josephs Home, Harborne which says she was 86. She lived for many years in Great Russell Street near all the other Irish families. She went into the home in about 1930.

"Mary's husband was Thomas William Walton, born 1859 Birmingham and was dead at the age of just 28(December 1887). The first child was born in 1883, the 4th he never saw as he was born after Thomas died in 1888. Thomas was a Brass founder Journeyman, he died of Enteric Fever which I think was Tyfoid, he must have drank the water! Thats why there was a pub on every corner down Summer Lane - to get a drink that would not kill you!!

"Mary never married again and lived a long life, she was very poor I would say and supported by the Church and the local community.

"I have Mary Hogan aged 21 (born 1860) in the 1881 Census, living with her Aunt, Bridget King aged 37, her husband Thomas King aged 35, born in Bham and their daughter Mary King aged 6, born Ireland. They are living at, would you believe, 45, WEAMAN STREET.
"The marriage certificate of Thomas King 22 and Bridget Hogan 27 is dated 12/2/1871 at St Chads, he is a Labourer and Bachelor, she no trade and a Spinster. It looks like Mary must have been born in Ireand".

"Thomas at the time of the marraige was living at 11 Court Steelhouse Lane, Mary 8 Court, Hospital Street. City, next to Weaman Street. My mother was born in Weaman Street in 1913 so the family didn't stray far from that area in over 30 years. Their fathers were James King Labourer and Michael Hogan Labourer".

Monday, 5 April 2010

Burials at St Josephs

Further to Ian Payne's emailed information below, these are some of the burials listed at St Josephs church yard which could be relevant to our research (I have included references to people surnamed Duffy, Hogan and Flynn which are surnames we come across elsewhere in this record - these may or may not be connected to our tree) and I have also included the tombs containing Mary's older brother John Finn and an unknown person named John Burke and the one containing Mary's daughter Elizabeth Hughes and her husband John. The number is the page reference of the fiche indexed at:

http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/mi/mi_brum_nechells.html#

Monumental Inscriptions for Nechells, Birmingham

St. Joseph's R.C. Church

Burke

John Allen 10

Duffy

Elizabeth 31
Frances 7
James 31
John 31
Katie 31
Michael Joseph 31
Patrick 31
Teresa 31

Finn

John 10

Flynn

Elizabeth 28
J M Rev 28
John 28

Hogan

Mary 17

Hughes

Elizabeth 10
John Alfred 10

Payne

Frederick 10**
Jane 10
Mary Jane 10*

Jamie Evans adds the following information to our  St Jospehs research:

"My mother always told me that my grandfather John Walter Walton 1886-1918 was buried in St Josephs Graveyard Nechells and I have spent many hours searching for any sign of his grave. St Josephs was the only Catholic Cemetery in the City back then. He actually died Hop Picking at Leigh in Worcestershire, I have tried local churchs in Leigh but with no joy.


A couple of years ago I contacted the Priest at St Josephs and he informed me that the page for the 1918 burials was missing from the Register and St Chads didnt have a copy. He added that in the war the graveyard was bombed causing much disruption and the loss of many tomb stones, so I have never been able to trace his grave, which I would dearly like to do.

His wife, my grandmother Martha Lily Walton (nee Henderson)1889-1934 is buried with her second husband in Olton Priory, (R.C.) Solihull". 
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More on John and Patrick Finn

Thank you to Ian Payne, who is g-grandson of Mary Payne nee.Finn, for adding this fascinating additional research to our history of the Finn family of Netwown, Birmingham:

John Finn

I have some information on John Finn born 1857, the son of patrick and catherine finn, it may be of help to you, he is buried up at saint Josephs, nechells,, in a grave just behind great nan Mary Jane Payne, he is in a tomb along with John Hughes, the husband of Elizabeth Hughes, nee Payne, she was my great aunt, john being my great uncle.

John Finn died 31/10/1924, his last address was 75 Coventry Road, Birmingham.

Addresses lived At:

Census: 1871, 12 Court 7 House London Prentice Street,St Mary's,Birmingham,Warwickshire
Occupation: 1871, Tube Worker

Census: 1881, 8 Court 1 House, Lench Street,Birmingham,Warwickshire
Occupation: 1881, Bricklayer's Labourer


Census: 1901, 1 Court 3, House Bath Street, St George,Birmingham,Warwickshire
Occupation: 1901, Bricklayer's Labourer

Reciept number at St Joseph's is Book 4 Page 92.

The tomb was already bought by Mary Jane Payne previous to his death, not too sure why, but also on the reciept it said that frederick payne was his nephew, rather than his cousin!!!!

Also in this grave was a man called John Allen Burke, all that I have noted on him was a connection with someone named Jane Crowe.

Patrick Finn
Patick Finn's wife was named Catherine Jennings, she was born in County Mayo, Ireland in 1833 and died in 1911, Patrick died in 1897, both in Birmingham. Patrick was buried on the 21 July 1897 at St Joseph's Nechells too, it is in the burials book at St Chads archives, but unfortunately there is no reciept for this grave or trace of a head stone. He died in the workhouse infirmary, Western Road, Winson Green.

Other info on Patrick Finn:

Addresses Lived At:

Census: 1871, 12 Court 7 House London Prentice Street,St Mary's,Birmingham,Warwickshire
Occupation: 1871, Labourer


Census: 1881, 8 Court 1 House, Lench Street,Birmingham,Warwickshire
Occupation: 1881, Labourer


Census: 1891, 5 Court 5 House Lancaster Street,St Marys,Birmingham,Warwickshire
Occupation: 1891, Bricklayer's Labourer

There are also traces of another Patrick Finn in the archives at St Chads, who seems to born around the same time as James and Thomas Finn, he married a woman called Catherine Peacock, I have a feeling that this Patrick was the son of Martin Finn Born in Galway in 1820, I have to research this more.
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Friday, 2 April 2010

Finns of Cleveland - family tree updated

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Above is an updated tree showing some of the descendants of the four Finn sisters (highlighted in yellow boxes) who went from Birmingham, UK to live in  Cleveland, Ohio. Three of the sisters married men named Ratchford, McKiernan and Robinson before they went to the States, the fourth sister Mary never married.   

What should be noted is that four of their other siblings remained in Birmingham, although we are aware that several relatives, including members of the extended Finn family in Birmingham, journeyed back and forth across the Atlantic during the first part of the 20th century, visiting these American families.

I would wish again to pay tribute to fellow researcher Jamie Evans for his work in digging out all of the information which has allowed me to plot the above tree. Before about one month ago, neither of us knew any of these surnames, siblings and families, nor their relationships to one another and literally had a couple of family myths to work on. Thus, this has been a quite incredible feat by Jamie and demonstrates just what can be achieved through painstaking research in just a short time frame. There have been a few inevitable red herrings along the way, but Jamie's perseverance has consistantly built up this critical mass of evidence which ultimately leads to the comprehensive branch of the family tree above.

All we need now is a few American cousins to hit the Google search button and we're in business! Well done Jamie.

All the way from America - Finn family latest update

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After our brief sojourn into rural Warwickshire, we return to the unfolding saga of the Finn family members who settled in Cleveland, Ohio from the late 1800s onwards. It has now got to a stage where I wait for the latest instalment of research from Jamie Evans with great excitement and his latest email does not disappoint.

SS Carinthia

This time Jamie's scrutiny of the passenger manifests of ships sailing between England and America edges us just sightly closer to the present day with the discovery of a journey made by Frederick and Mary Payne who sailed on the SS Carinthia from Southampton to New York on 10th September 1932. Listed in the manifest are Frederick and Mary PAYNE, both aged 60 years, and retired. Frederick stating he was born in Stoke, Coventry, Mary in Birmingham.

This couple are without doubt the couple whom we know set up Danny Boy Coaches (or Paynes Coaches) in Aston in the early 1900s. Mary Payne was born Mary Finn and was the cousin of my great grandmother, Mary Clayton who was also named Mary Finn at birth. These two women were the same age and their fathers were brothers, Thomas and James Finn.

Jamie adds this poignant observation about the SS Carinthia "this ship was torpedoed on 6th June 1940 off the Irish Coast near Galway Bay, by U 46 with only 4 deaths".

He goes on to provide us with some fascinating information gleaned from the ship's manifest:

"On the second page of the manifest, they give personal details, they state that their next of kin is their daughter Mrs Elisa HUGHES who lives at 18, Park Road, Moseley, Birmingham, if you remember Thomas McKiernan gave this address but no district when he came over with his wife Annie in 1930, so we now know where they were staying. Have you any details about the daughter? I believe that in the 1930s this would have been a very desirable place to live in Birmingham, the daughter must have been doing well".

Pete: I have in the past had it confirmed to me by descendants of Mary Payne (Ian Payne and his father Gerald), that the Payne family did become very affluent around this time with a number of business interests, not least the coach travel company. I also collected oral history accounts about Mary Payne's family from my aunt, Kathleen Robinson (nee. Millington) before her death a few years ago and Kath recalled Mary's daughter Lizzie running errands for Mary, including the collection of rents from tennants of the Paynes in Newtown. There is a strong possibility therefore that the Lizzie whom my aunty Kath recalled and this Elisa Hughes of Moseley were one and the same person.

Jamie continues:

"They give the person they are going to visit in the USA as AUNT Julia Robinson, 11310, Miles Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio, this is the person who most of the Birmingham people travelling to Cleveland, Ohio stated they were visiting, however I have been unable to positively identify who she is, (but more details below)".

Pete: All I would add at this stage is that the occurance of the surname Robinson (my aunty Kathleen Robinson and Julia Robinson of Ohio) twice in the relating of this research is most probably a coincidence as Kath would without doubt have known had her husband's family been related to her own just two generations back, but having said this, we can never discount anything in family history.

Jamie continues his report of the ships manfest:

"Frederick Payne states that he has visited Cleveland, Ohio previously for a month in 1928. It would appear that Frederick and his wife were travelling First Class as listed directly below them on the ships manifest are some travelling companions, they are Graham N. Jeffries, aged 32, his wife Lorna aged 28, son, Roderic aged 5 and his widowed mother Elizabeth Jeffries, aged 61, all of London, they are travelling to New York,

"The family are going to visit an Aunt named Mrs Constance Montague of 105 West 55th Street, New York and stated that she also lives at 69, New Bond Street, London W.1.

A Graham Jeffries novel, this one under the pseudonym Peter Bourne

"Graham Jeffries was a now long forgotten famous author of the 1930's, who also used the pseudonym 'Bruce Graeme', publishing his first of a series of books in 1925, called 'Blackshirt' who was a gentleman crook, in 1952 his son Roderic took over writing the books continuing with the same subject. Whether Frederick and Mary Payne had the opportunity to spend sometime with this famous author and his family we may never know!!

"From the 1890's to the 1930's we have Birmingham relatives travelling to and from the USA and particularly Cleveland, Ohio, the majority when giving details on who they are going to visit on US Immigration forms state JULIA ROBINSON some add AUNT.

"From trawling Ancestry, Census's etc, there is only one person who could be the above Julia Robinson, this is JULIA FINN who according to her birth certificate was born on 5th June 1877, at 9 Court, Weaman Street, Birmingham, to James and Mary FINN".

"I believe that theses are the parents as shown at 22, Lench Street which is off Weaman Street, Birmingham, in the 1881 Census:

James FINN Head M Male 47 Ireland Labourer

Mary FINN Wife M Female 45 Ireland

Ann FINN Daur U Female 18 Birm, Warwick, England Dressmaker

Thomas FINN Son Male 14 Birm, Warwick, England Polisher (Artzn)

James FINN Son Male 10 Birm, Warwick, England Scholar

Mary Ann FINN Daur Female 9 Birm, Warwick, England Scholar

Thomas BALDIFORD Boarder M Male 27 Birm, Warwick, England Cushioner Gun Trade

Ellen BALDIFORD Boarder M Female 22 Birm, Warwick, England

John BALDIFORD Boarder U Male 7 Birm, Warwick, England

Henry COLLINS Boarder U Male 18 Oxford, Oxford, England Coach Harness Work

Thomas WELSH Boarder U Male 32 Ireland Bricklayer Labourer

Edward WILLIAMS Boarder U Male 20 Birm, Warwick, England Brass Caster

Evans WILLIAMS Boarder U Male 18 Birm, Warwick, England Gun Barrel Filer


"However living at the address where Julia Finn was born (in 1877) in the 1881 census were:

Thos. FINN Head M Male 36 Galway, Ireland Blayers Lab

Bridget FINN Wife M Female 34 Galway, Ireland Press Worker

Mary FINN Daur Female 9 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar

Annie FINN Daur Female 6 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar

Margret FINN Daur Female 4 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar

Ellen FINN Daur Female 2 Birmingham, Warwick, England

Mary FLYNN Mother W Female 60 Galway, Ireland Hkeeper

Margret FLYNN Sister In Law U Female 26 Galway, Ireland Press Worker

Maria FLYNN Sister In Law U Female 24 Galway, Ireland Iron Bedstead Polisher

Mary BALICAN Board U Female 40 Galway, Ireland Press Worker

Source of information:

Dwelling 10H 9 Ct Weaman St

Census PlaceBirmingham, Warwick, England

Family History Library Film 1341716

Public Records Office Reference RG11

Piece / Folio 2997 / 109

Page Number 14

Jamie has also emailed with the following research records found in the Cleveland Library Archives showing the death notice of Julia Robinson and many other Cleveland relatives up until 1966. This is really incredible material and will assist us in finally putting together all of the jigsaw pieces that he has uncovered in the past few weeks to plot out the full tree of the Finn siblings (4 daughters) who went to Cleveland, Ohio in the early 1900s. These records not only prove beyond doubt that the people named Robinson, McKiernan and Ratchford were sisters with the shared maiden name Finn, but they also give us new details about spouses, sons and daughters and even an indication of grand children in the USA. Jamie tells us that his next aim is to track down living descendants in the States. In the meantime I will spend some time analysing these records to see if we can form them into a tree diagramme.  

Holy Name RC Church, Cleveland, Ohio

Id#: 0098402

Name: Finn, Mary

Date: June 30, 1926

Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #025.

Notes: Finn-Mary, beloved sister of Mrs. Ellen Ratchford, Mrs. Edward Robinson, Mrs. Thomas McKiernan; aunt of Sister Marie Nativa, Jim Ratchford, Mrs. H. Asbury, Mrs. P. Shindler, Thomas McKiernan, John, Edward, Bernard, Catherine, Julia and Mary Ellen, passed away Sunday, June 27. Burial from the residence of her sister, Mrs. Edward Robinson, 11310 Miles avenue. Funeral Thursday, July 1, at 9 a. m., from Holy Name Church. Friends invited.

#: 0289109

Name: Robinson, Edward

Date: June 13, 1927

Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #069.

Notes: Robinson-Edward, beloved husband of Julia, father of William and the late Joseph, brother of the late William and Joseph, at his residence, 11310 Miles avenue. Funeral Wednesday, June 15, at 10 a. m., from Holy Name church. 1861 - 1927. Calvary Cemetery. Cleveland, Ohio.

Name: Ratchford, Ellen

Date: Jan 29 1934

Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #066.

Notes: Ratchford: Ellen (nee Finn), beloved mother of John, James, Thomas, Mrs. H. Asbury and Mrs. P. Schindler, sister of Mary Finn (deceased), Mrs. Julia Robinson and Mrs. Thomas McKiernan, passed away Saturday, Jan. 27, at 4:45 p. m., at her residence, 5513 Maurice Ave. Funeral Tuesday, Jan, 30, at 9 a. m., from St. Edward's Church

Id#: 0298894

Name: Robinson, Mrs. Julia

Date: Jul 16 1934

Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #069.

Notes: Robinson: Mrs. Julia, widow of the late Edward, beloved mother of William H., sister of Mrs. Thomas McKiernan and the late Miss Mary Finn and Mrs. Ellen Ratchford at her residence, 11310 Miles Avenue. Funeral Tuesday, July 17, at 9 a. m., from Holy Name Churc

Id#: 0220905

Name: McKiernan, Ann

Date: Sep 18 1945

Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #053.

Notes: McKiernan: Ann (nee Finn), of 419 E, 147 st., dearly beloved wife of the late Thomas P., mother of Thomas, John, Edward, Bernard, Kathryn Whalen, Julia Cregan, Sister Marie Nativa, H. H. M., and Mary Duncan. Friends may call at the William J. Donlon Funeral Home, 9213 Miles ave. Funeral Wednesday, Sept. 19, at 10 a. m. from St. Jerome's Church, 15000 Lake Shore

Id#: 0220909

Name: McKiernan, Thomas Patrick

Date: Jan 9 1941

Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #053.

Notes: McKiernan: Thomas Patrick of 550 E. 140 st., beloved husband of Ann (nee Finn); father of Thomas, jr., John, Edward, Bernard, Catherine Whalen, Julia Cregan, Sister Marie Nativa (Holy Humility of Mary), Mary Duncan. Friends may call at the Wm. J. Donlon Funeral Home, 9213 Miles ave. Funeral Friday, Jan. 10, at 10 a. m., from St. Jerome's Church, 15000 Lake Shore blvd.

Id#: 0617708

Name: McKiernan, Edward

Date: Sep 20 1952

Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #132.

Notes: McKiernan, Edward, residence, 8203 Laumar, beloved husband of Ann (nee Kerrigan), father of Mrs. Rita Hardy, Mrs. June Hardy, Mrs. Nancy Fisher brother of Thomas, John of Miami, Fla. Bernard Katherine Whalen, Julia Cregan, Sister Marie Nativa, H. H. M., Mary Duncan. Friends may call at William J. Donlon Funeral Home, 9213 Miles Ave. Funeral 9 a. m. Monday, Sept. 22, from Holy Name Church.

Id#: 0685491

Name: Ratchford, James

Date: Sep 15 1953

Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #148.

Notes: Ratchford, James, residence, 3334 Walton, beloved husband of Ann (nee Morrisrol), brother of John Rutchford and Alice Schindler. Friends may call at the Wm. J. Donlon Funeral Home, 9213 Miles Ave. Funeral Wednesday, Sept. 16, at 9:30 a. m. from St. Michael's Church, 3114 Scranton Rd.

Id#: 0685490

Name: Ratchford, Ann

Date: Nov 14 1956

Source: Cleveland Reporter; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #148.

Notes: Ratchford, Ann (nee Morrisre), wife of the late James. Friends may call at Wm. J. Donlon Funeral Home, 9213 Miles Ave. Funeral Thursday, Nov. 15, at 10 A. M. from St. Ignatius Church, Lorain and West Blvd.

Id#: 0617709

Name: McKiernan, Thomas W.

Date: Apr 20 1957

Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #132.

Notes: McKiernan, Thomas W., residence, 11334 Cotes Ave., beloved husband of Anna (nee Farrell), beloved father of Patricia McKenney, and grandfather of Mark, brother of John, Edward (deceased), Bernard Catherine Whalen, Julia Cregan. Sister Marie Nativa, H. H. M., Mary Ducan. Friends may call at Wm. J. Donton Funeral Home, 9213 Miles Ave., after 7 P. M. Saturday. Requiem mass Monday, Apr. 22, at 9 a. m. from Holy Name Church.

Id#: 0415013

Name: Asbury, Henry J.

Date: Jun 9 1962

Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #090.

Notes: Asbury. Henry J. Asbury, age 71, of Chatdon, O., beloved husband of Ellen (nee Ratchford) (deceased), father of Thomas and Henry of Cleveland, Mrs. Lucille Penkaty of Chardon, 6 grandchildren. Family will receive friends at the Ritondaro Funeral Home, Chirdon, O., Sunday 7-9 P. M., Monday 2-4 And 7-9 P. M. Funeral mass Tuesday 9 a. m. from St. Mary's Church, Chardon. Burial Calvary Cemetery.

Id#: 0465090

Name: Cregan, William D.

Date: Nov 27 1966

Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #102.

Notes: Cregan. William D. Cregan, late residence, 419 E. 147th St., beloved husband of Julia M. (nee McKiernan), father of William D., Joseph T., and John P., brother of Joseph T., Eileen Moore, Thomas and the late Rev. Fr. John P. Cregan, grandfather of 10. Friends may call From 2-5 And 7-10 P.M. Sunday at The Mullally Funeral Home, 365 E. 156th St. (off Lake Shore Blvd.). Services 9:30 a.m. Monday at St. Jerome Church. Member Cursillo Movement. Contributions may be made to Rosemary Home for Crippled Children.

St Jerome RC Church, Lake Shore Boulevard, Cleveland, Ohio